Kinkabell
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Post by Kinkabell on Sept 2, 2004 8:00:32 GMT -5
i'm lame, you all know this already, so please, can someone help me: Oh I Wept by Free has only ever been tabbed by one guy, and i can't figure out the timing of it at all - i need lyrics as pointers cz i'm dumb, so if anyone can help me i'd really appreciate it kisses n pixiedust  |
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retrokris
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Post by retrokris on Sept 2, 2004 9:43:40 GMT -5
Ok seen as im a nice guy and all...lol erm go to this site www.tabpower.com/s46593.htmlIm not sure how well you read music so ive tabbed the note names (see below) TAB NOTE NAMES LOOK AT THE NOTES OVER THE LYRICS AND FIND OUT WERE THEY ARE ON THE FRET BOARD ON THIS DIAGRAM G--------------------------------------------- D--------------------------------------------- A---------5--------0------------2------------- E-0----------------------2-------------------- --- E------D--------A ----B-------F#------- hope this helps you out kisses and indeed alot of pixie dust x |
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Kinkabell
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Post by Kinkabell on Sept 2, 2004 9:51:40 GMT -5
cheers dude, it may yet be my salvation kisses n pixiedust |
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retrokris
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Post by retrokris on Sept 9, 2004 19:07:17 GMT -5
No probs i just hope it's correct  |
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Post by HowardK on Nov 1, 2004 4:15:19 GMT -5
This is why tab is such a poor substitute for standard notation. We are bass players, rhythm is our job!
A means of writing music that doesnt show rhythm is a comeplete waste of time. Rhythm is equally as important, if not more, than the notes.
I would advise against using tab from the net. If you work out the bass line yourself by ear you'll learn something more than just a bassline.
It might be a little tricky to start with, but it'll get loads easier the more you do it. Playing by ear is also a vital tol for improvisation. You probasbly wont have tabswhen you get ino the jam room! ;D
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Post by WeeMann on Nov 7, 2004 5:06:15 GMT -5
I can't argue with your comments there, but TAB has it's place as a quick and easy tool for showing music if you don't have the knowledge for reading proper notation. It's certainly helped me over the years and I think I've got a pretty good ear.
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Post by HowardK on Nov 11, 2004 4:02:31 GMT -5
I can't argue with your comments there, but TAB has it's place as a quick and easy tool for showing music if you don't have the knowledge for reading proper notation. It's certainly helped me over the years and I think I've got a pretty good ear. Sorry, I still disagree! Notes alone do not make music. Notes and rhythm equals music. Tab contains no rhythm, so it's not really music. It does have it's uses, for showing correct fingering of an excercise for example. The main problem I have with it really is that nearly every student I have will get tabs from the net rather than learn tunes by ear. Learning by ear is a vital aspect of musicianship, probably thee most vital aspect. |
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Post by De-la on Nov 11, 2004 7:28:50 GMT -5
I' with you there I like to use tab when I have listened to a tune and cant work out bits then I refer to tab to see if that can help me!
Just my thoughts- I don’t wana’ argue lol... ;D
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Post by HowardK on Nov 11, 2004 7:42:05 GMT -5
Yeah, true, agreed, I've done/ do that... moosiks better if you canget it tho |
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Post by WeeMann on Nov 11, 2004 12:40:33 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, the ear is important - arguably the most important part of music (duh!) - but like Mr Funk says, it's useful for getting that last bit you can't quite pick out.
And you're right, it doesn't show the rhythm - that's where your ear comes in.
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Post by Graham on Nov 11, 2004 15:40:11 GMT -5
tab may be a monkeys crayon to standard notations pluming quill if you will, but it does actually have some advantages in my opinion - because you're required to interpret the intended rhythm it forces you to listen over and bridge that gap yourself. this can help to encourage someone to engage more in what they're trying to learn, because in effect they're having to work a large part of it out themselves, rather than just reading it from a page. it can also help to develop a natural sense a rhythm because you're not thinking in terms of note lengths, rather just in what sounds right - you can't think mathematically, you have to learn by feel. of course, tab can also impair someones learning if they're not able to realise that they're doing something wrong, but under correct teaching or just general awareness of fault it can actually help.
although to be perfectly honest, i wish id learnt how to read notation fluently a lot earlier than i have
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Post by HowardK on Nov 22, 2004 4:54:20 GMT -5
A valid point Graham, but even more valid is the "learn the whole lot by ear or you'll never get good" school of thought!  I think the phrase "the music is not in the paper, it's in the musician" sums up the whole from sheet vs by ear arguement. |
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TheBassPlayer
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Post by TheBassPlayer on Nov 22, 2004 5:02:26 GMT -5
Ok seen as im a nice guy and all...lol erm go to this site www.tabpower.com/s46593.htmlIm not sure how well you read music so ive tabbed the note names (see below) TAB NOTE NAMES LOOK AT THE NOTES OVER THE LYRICS AND FIND OUT WERE THEY ARE ON THE FRET BOARD ON THIS DIAGRAM G--------------------------------------------- D--------------------------------------------- A---------5--------0------------2------------- E-0----------------------2-------------------- --- E------D--------A ----B-------F#------- hope this helps you out kisses and indeed alot of pixie dust x Since when has B been on the E string second fret??? and then F# on the A string second fret??? You have got the last 2 mixed up!! |
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